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BigTyla
01-14-2013, 12:50 PM
I have not been a fan of anything that Chevy has put out recently, but I have to admit they hit this one out of the park.

2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray First Look - Motor Trend (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupes/1301_2014_chevrolet_corvette_stingray_first_look/)



Read any review of the Corvette and you'll see the same list of compliments and complaints: great performance, terrible interior, or some variation thereof. The Corvette team has an answer to that, and it's called the 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray making its star turn at the 2013 Detroit auto show.

It starts at the core of the car. Every 2014 Corvette now features an aluminum frame, not just the higher-performance models. Instead of two uniformly thick, hydroformed rails, the chassis is now made up of five sections using hydroformed aluminum, cast aluminum, and extruded aluminum, with each section tailored to its purpose in strength and stiffness. The result is a 99-pound weight reduction with a 57 percent increase in stiffness. That's 60 percent stiffer than today's Z06 with the C7's removable roof in place, and 20 percent stiffer with the roof out. Curb weight should be about the same after accounting for other changes.

Moving outward, the C7 features redesigned suspension hardware with new aluminum control arms and stiffer links, knuckles, and bushings. The front and rear cradles are now hollow cast aluminum with stiffer attachment points for the suspension. Bilstein shocks are standard and upsized on the Z51 performance model (which returns after a four-year hiatus) for stiffer body control -- or why not spring for third-generation magnetic shocks? Whichever way you go, they hold down narrower 18-inch front/19-inch rear wheels (19 and 20 inches, respectively, and forged on Z51 cars) that improve the turning radius without sacrificing grip. In one of many crossovers from racing development, the same Michelin engineer who designs tires for the Corvette Racing Team now also designs the standard Pilot Super Sport Run-Flats that are unique to the C7.

Behind those wheels are standard Brembo brakes that, while slightly smaller in diameter than before, boast 35 percent more swept area thanks to larger pads that cover more area on the rotor face. Z51 cars get larger front discs (13.6 inches versus 12.6 on the base C7) with 6 percent more swept area than a current Corvette Grand Sport and a lot more bite. Chevrolet says the new Stingray will stop 11 feet shorter than before, putting its 60-0-mph braking comparable with that of the mighty ZR1, which we measured at 94 feet.

Things upstream of the wheels have improved as well. In the front end of the current car, Corvette Racing found consistent failure points in the mounts for the steering system. The C7's steering system has been hard-mounted and beefed up, and the support structure is now, according to Chevrolet, 500 percent stiffer. The new electric power steering features a variable ratio and variable resistance for every circumstance.

On the other end, the Z51 sports an electronically controlled mechanical limited-slip differential that can go from open to locked in "tenths of a second," and can vary clutch engagement infinitely. Just ahead of that is the new seven-speed manual trans, an evolution of the Tremec six-speed in the C6. As well as the third overdrive gear (Z51s get shorter performance gearing and a closer overall ratio spread), it boasts active rev-matching for up- and downshifts. A hall effect sensor on the shift rail monitors every minute movement of the shifter and predicts what gear you'll want next, then revs the engine to match. Don't want the computer doing the work? Click either "paddle" on the back of the steering wheel to turn it off. The transmission also features a smaller dual-mass flywheel and smaller, twin-disc clutch that improves clamping power while reducing inertia and shift effort. And, yes, it still has skip-shift.

If manual shifting isn't your bag, there's also the paddle-shifted six-speed automatic. It's an update of the current 6L80 automatic and features a smaller torque converter, which carries less inertia for -- you guessed it -- faster and smoother shifts. Otherwise, all updates are in the software to improve shift speed, rev matching, and gear prediction. You can also do it yourself via the steering wheel paddles.

Providing the go power is the latest update to Chevrolet's famous small-block V-8. Resurrecting the LT1 moniker, the updated engine displaces 6.2 liters and pumps out at least 450 hp and 450 lb-ft of torque. The improvements in peak power are modest, but Chevy says the power curves are greatly improved, with the new engine producing as much torque between 1000 and 4000 rpm as did the 7.0-liter V-8 in the Z06. Helping to produce the extra grunt is direct fuel injection, continuously variable valve timing, and completely redesigned combustion chambers. On the other side of the spectrum, cylinder deactivation allows it to run in four-cylinder mode, a proven technology with the automatic and a first for a manual transmission car. Chevy says it's good for a 10 to 20 percent bump in fuel economy. Contrary to what you might think, the engineers say the large-displacement V-8 makes for a more efficient car because it makes enough torque in V-4 mode to stay in that mode more often. Chevy rejected a twin-turbo V-6 because while it delivered on power, it didn't improve fuel economy.

Controlling all this is the console-mounted Drive Mode Selector, which dials from Tour to Weather, Eco, Sport, and Track. It alters the operating parameters of the electronic differential (if equipped), cylinder deactivation, throttle mapping, stability control, traction control, launch control, auto transmission shift mapping, Performance Traction Management (if equipped), Magnetic Ride Control (if equipped), steering weight and ratio, and the gauge cluster display.

Outside, the radical new bodywork is jet-inspired and race-tested. Every scoop and vent you see is functional, much of it borrowed from Corvette Racing. The hood vent, for example, ducts roughly a third of flow from the now forward-slanted radiator over the top of the car. That helps reduce underbody lift so much that the new Z51 has less lift than the current ZR1. Likewise borrowed from the C6.R are the scoops on the rear haunches. Each is functional and feeds a cooler, for the transmission on the driver side and for the differential on the passenger's (Z51 only) with hot air released through vents outboard of the taillights and diffuser in the rear. Front brake cooling comes from the single central grille (better for drag), while the rear brakes pick up cool air from beneath the car, just ahead of the rear wheels. The standard carbon-fiber roof has a deeper channel to draw more air over the car and down to the functional rear spoiler, which spans the window's width on the base car and full body width on the Z51. A new rear hatch that extends all the way to the tail helps air adhere to the bodywork all the way to the spoiler, another racing trick. The new hatch opens around the quarter windows (the first on a 'Vette since the C1) and is wide enough for the standard removable roof to be stored underneath.

That leads us inside to perhaps the biggest update. Chevrolet took its interior designers to the track to show them how functional the new interior needed to be, and it shows. The two seat options, GT or Competition Sport, have substantially more support and stiffer frames, and the latter has deeper bolsters for real track duty. They're even heated and cooled. In front of them, the new steering wheel is the smallest Chevrolet has made, and it frames a customizable 8-inch screen with three default modes: Touring, with nav, radio, phone, and other information; Sport, with a large tach and performance gauges; and Track, borrowed from the race car with linear tach and detailed onboard data. Above it, an available full-color, hi-res, reconfigurable head-up display puts the data on the windshield as well.

To the driver's right, the touch screen drops down behind the dash to reveal a cubby and features a Corvette-specific version of MyLink and fully redundant manual controls, all of which are angled toward the driver. The passenger gets a grab handle on each side and redundant climate controls under the air vent near the door to keep their hands out of the driver's domain. The whole cabin is bathed in soft-touch materials, cut and stitched vinyl standard, and Napa leather optional in a number of colors. Trim is likewise rich, using aluminum, leather, microsuede, and optional real carbon fiber.

Pricing hasn't been announced yet, but Chevrolet says if you could afford the old one, you'll be able to afford the new one. Expect to get your chance to do so in the third quarter of 2013.


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http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/coupes/1301_2014_chevrolet_corvette_stingray_first_look/42726577/2014-Chevrolet-corvette-Stingray-interior.jpg

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadtests/coupes/1301_2014_chevrolet_corvette_stingray_first_look/42061190/2014-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-in-red-rear-three-quarter.jpg

http://www.highsnobiety.com/files/2013/01/2014-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-5-630x419.jpg

green-lantern
01-14-2013, 12:55 PM
I'm not seeing the pics but I watched the unveil last night. I like it a lot.

B-Man
01-14-2013, 12:59 PM
I'm soooo glad they revamped the interior. It gave me a boner when I first saw it over the summer.

Amphiron
01-14-2013, 03:51 PM
interior looks great, as for the exterior there isn't a single original idea. it's like they took all the cars from 2011-2012 and molded them into the shape of a corvette

mb3000
01-14-2013, 04:22 PM
Rear 1/4 of the car looks strikingly similar to the Camaro.

BigTyla
01-14-2013, 04:45 PM
Rear 1/4 of the car looks strikingly similar to the Camaro.

It's the tail lights and slim rear window. Thankfully they toned down the rear quarter pillars because it looks stupid on the Camaro.

fullracegt
01-14-2013, 07:27 PM
I like it a lot,looks good but I'll always lean towards the viper

Unknownvr4
01-14-2013, 10:42 PM
Ugly. I sorta liked it when i first saw it but I hate it now. Leave it to Chevy to still have a crappy looking interior in 2014. It looks like they took the C6 interior and just reworked it slightly. The rear end is now on 3 of their cars while the tail lights are shared on 4. The exterior looks kind of like the new SRT Viper/Ferrari 599 at first glance. They should have just left it alone, or came up with something better.

BigTyla
01-15-2013, 09:42 AM
Ugly. I sorta liked it when i first saw it but I hate it now. Leave it to Chevy to still have a crappy looking interior in 2014. It looks like they took the C6 interior and just reworked it slightly. The rear end is now on 3 of their cars while the tail lights are shared on 4. The exterior looks kind of like the new SRT Viper/Ferrari 599 at first glance. They should have just left it alone, or came up with something better.

You are definitely in the minority on this one.

Unknownvr4
01-15-2013, 09:46 AM
Actually, the minority seems to be on this site. A lot of people don't like it on the "other" site and also on other sites that I'm a member of.

anyonebutme
01-15-2013, 09:51 AM
I don't like it either. The minority isn't as small as you'd think. That being said I didn't like the C5 rear when it came out either, and I still don't like the C6 front end.

BigTyla
01-15-2013, 11:25 AM
Well, opinions are like assholes I guess. :p You can call it all you want, you can even say you don't find it attractive, but to say this car is ugly is a huge stretch.

HilbillyHomeboy
01-15-2013, 11:59 AM
Uhh yeah, it's incredible. I'm not crazy about the tails, but I love everything else.

Jeremy

IPD
01-15-2013, 11:48 PM
with VW doing tails similar to these now...i think chevy needs to re-invent it. this seems like a step backwards from the c6 tails (one of the best ever put on a production car). disgusting grille. looks like rear visibility will be as awful as ever. interior looks promising, but we'll see how much of that is low-quality gm plastic in the production run (and we all know how much gm LOVES plastic).

i certainly see the corvette lines in the profile, but the front and rear of the car is a mess, imho. i really think it's mostly just the awful front grille & the unoriginal rear. both the c6/c7 seem to be chasing a ferrari ghost. rather than doing that, i think chevy should consider going "retro" and returning to c2 roots. maybe include a split-window. something that says "100% american", rather than "50% knockoff ferrari"

p.s.

the good thing is, when the c7 drops, the ls3 c6's will start dropping in price. i'd much rather own one of those. :)

Chris@Rvengeperformance
01-17-2013, 02:20 PM
You are definitely in the minority on this one.

nope, I hate it.

IPD
01-17-2013, 02:29 PM
...and it looked better in the hype shots before...

p.s.

now that someone pointed it out, i really don't like how the a-pillars are blended and not the rest. it just looks wierd.

Chris@Rvengeperformance
01-17-2013, 02:36 PM
I love how half of the pics they put up are renderings or so much HDR it may as well be a video game.

HilbillyHomeboy
01-17-2013, 02:47 PM
If you go into the gallery of 56 pictures, the vast majority are not renderings or HDR. They are just shots taken with a good camera. The dark gray car shots. The red ones, yeah (most all of) those are rendered and/or heavily processed.

Jeremy

BigTyla
01-17-2013, 08:13 PM
nope, I hate it.

...and you're in the minority too. Like it or not, the vast majority of enthusiasts love this new car.

IPD
01-18-2013, 01:18 AM
...and you're in the minority too. Like it or not, the vast majority of enthusiasts love this new car.

how can anyone love a car that looks like it has braces?

Unknownvr4
01-18-2013, 07:17 AM
how can anyone love a car that looks like it has braces?

Rofl

Yea, I think more people don't like it than do..

BigTyla
01-18-2013, 10:02 AM
If you honestly believe that more people don't like it than do, then you obviously have your eyes closed. Go look around the comments on Motortrend, Autoweek, Jalopnik, the Corvette forums, etc and it's pretty obvious who is in the majority.

Again, you don't have to like it, but let's not kid ourselves by saying those that don't like it are in the majority. That's like saying the majority of enthusiasts like the 3S platform which couldn't be further from the truth.

HilbillyHomeboy
01-18-2013, 10:10 AM
If you honestly believe that more people don't like it than do, then you obviously have your eyes closed. Go look around the comments on Motortrend, Autoweek, Jalopnik, the Corvette forums, etc and it's pretty obvious who is in the majority.

Again, you don't have to like it, but let's not kid ourselves by saying those that don't like it are in the majority. That's like saying the majority of enthusiasts like the 3S platform which couldn't be further from the truth.

Seriously...

BigTyla
01-18-2013, 10:16 AM
Oh, and let's not leave this to supposition. Let's have a look around the interwebs, shall we?

Poll: Do You Love The 2014 Chevy Corvette Stingray? | GM Authority (http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/01/poll-do-you-love-the-2014-chevy-corvette-stingray/)


Do You Love The 2014 Chevy Corvette Stingray?:

Love it: 83.16% (1,062 votes)
Indifferent: 9.63% (123 votes)
Hate it: 7.2% (92 votes)

2014 Chevrolet C7 Corvette Stingray is worth another (and another) look [w/poll] (http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/14/2014-chevrolet-c7-corvette-stingray-detroit-2013/)


Is the standard C7 Corvette worthy of the Stingray name?:

Yes, it's awesome: 11021 (44.0%)
Yes, but "Stingray" should be reserved for a special model: 8812 (35.2%)
No, it's not worthy: 3759 (15.0%)
Not sure: 1462 (5.8%)

But let's not stop there. How about we check out some of the comments on DailyTech?

DailyTech - Next Generation Chevrolet "C7" Corvette Stingray Unveiled in Detroit (http://www.dailytech.com/Next+Generation+Chevrolet+C7+Corvette+Stingray+Unv eiled+in+Detroit/article29641.htm)

Overwhelmingly positive reviews with a few splashes of trolling from people saying it resembles a 15 y/o Tiburon.

Chris@Rvengeperformance
01-18-2013, 10:19 AM
it is amazing what government funding can do for your marketing campaign.

J-Groove
01-18-2013, 10:41 AM
I like it a lot.

Only thing that I'm not digging is the taillights. I will have to see one in person to make my final judgement.

Also, I think the A pillars and roof would look a lot better body colored. I'm sure that will be an option.

-John

anyonebutme
01-18-2013, 11:12 AM
Oh, and let's not leave this to supposition. Let's have a look around the interwebs, shall we?

Poll: Do You Love The 2014 Chevy Corvette Stingray? | GM Authority (http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/01/poll-do-you-love-the-2014-chevy-corvette-stingray/)



2014 Chevrolet C7 Corvette Stingray is worth another (and another) look [w/poll] (http://www.autoblog.com/2013/01/14/2014-chevrolet-c7-corvette-stingray-detroit-2013/)



But let's not stop there. How about we check out some of the comments on DailyTech?

DailyTech - Next Generation Chevrolet "C7" Corvette Stingray Unveiled in Detroit (http://www.dailytech.com/Next+Generation+Chevrolet+C7+Corvette+Stingray+Unv eiled+in+Detroit/article29641.htm)

Overwhelmingly positive reviews with a few splashes of trolling from people saying it resembles a 15 y/o Tiburon.

When the last gen viper was being designed they polled the owners to see what design ideas they should keep, because the vast majority of current Viper owners are past Viper owners. Same goes with new Vettes (except the average vette owner is 20-30 years older). Buddy of mine's family bought a new vette every generation since the C1 when they were young, they chose not to buy a C6. Said the design was getting too much caddy snowplow/Ford Focus influence with all the sharp edges.

Other than that, I got no evidence to say how much I still think it's ugly. Their throwing around of once legendary names on everything they make also pisses me off. If it pisses you off so much that I think it's ugly, oh well. Polls don't count.....nobody asked me for my opinion.

IPD
01-18-2013, 11:14 AM
it's a corvette. the positive response isn't from people with aesthetic taste. it's from nutswingers who would call it beautiful if they slapped the word "corvette" on a pontiac aztek.

imho, the c6 has a LOT better design cues in many areas. only thing i really consider about the c7 as a marked improvement is the headlights and maybe some of the interior cues.

BigTyla
01-18-2013, 11:35 AM
When the last gen viper was being designed they polled the owners to see what design ideas they should keep, because the vast majority of current Viper owners are past Viper owners. Same goes with new Vettes (except the average vette owner is 20-30 years older). Buddy of mine's family bought a new vette every generation since the C1 when they were young, they chose not to buy a C6. Said the design was getting too much caddy snowplow/Ford Focus influence with all the sharp edges.

Other than that, I got no evidence to say how much I still think it's ugly. Their throwing around of once legendary names on everything they make also pisses me off. If it pisses you off so much that I think it's ugly, oh well. Polls don't count.....nobody asked me for my opinion.

I have no problem with your opinion. I was contesting the whole "people that like this car are in the minority, not me" sentiment being passed around by others. The majority of people, and not just previous Corvette owners, like this new design.

BigTyla
01-18-2013, 11:36 AM
To help relate, I HATE the new Camaro, but I know the majority of people happen to like it. I also know the majority of people have poor taste in cars. :p

HilbillyHomeboy
01-18-2013, 11:43 AM
To help relate, I HATE the new Camaro, but I know the majority of people happen to like it. I also know the majority of people have poor taste in cars. :p

Same here. :)

Jeremy

mcshooter
01-18-2013, 07:04 PM
at my weekly breakfast today the 3 guys who have corvettes did not like it.. but they only see it in a magazine.should probably wait to see one at the cleveland car show

B-Man
01-18-2013, 07:08 PM
how can anyone love a car that looks like it has braces?

How can anyone like a car with an underbite and sharks teeth?

PearlWhiteR/T
01-18-2013, 10:25 PM
I'm a car enthusiast and this Corvette is rather not nice to look at lol. I'll rock the new Dodge Viper or the old C6 Z06 and ZR1 over this Vette any day of the week.

TurboSinceBirth
01-18-2013, 10:34 PM
I don't care for the look. It's not so much that I hate it but more that it doesn't look like a corvette anymore. Ferrari and Jaguar pull it off better. I'd rather have the C6 or next to newest Viper model over their current line up. I'm more curious about how well their engines take to mods though. I can put up with looks some.

Sin'sVr4
01-19-2013, 01:37 AM
ya, we have a ford and chevy dealership and i hate the new vette. Not saying i wouldnt take one if someone handed me the keys....but id rather have the new 662hp shelby. looks fuking angry! and ive driven it already.

Vette looks good side/rear, but definitly true about all the same tail lights. My buddy said all the guys in the corvette forum are saying its horrible. I myself like the c6, driven those too and verry nice.

IPSjeff
01-20-2013, 04:07 PM
IMO it will be like the base-C6 that I still don't "Like" compared to the MUCH better looking Z06 / ZR1. Take a design that is a bit too busy and clean it up all while making it more aggressive-looking (Lower / wider / meaner) with a better set of wheels and I think it will be a whole different car.

ATM I would much rather have a C6Z or ZR1 :)
Jeff

stealthee
01-20-2013, 04:24 PM
Change the ass end, ie the tailllights, and the car is a good progression in the line of Corvettes.