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    The next generation turbo ???

    Technolical advances in the turbo as designed by BorgWarner/Full-Race.com



    http://www.full-race.com/articles/bo...fr-turbos.html

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    Snazzy but I doubt it will really take hold for a while yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocWalt View Post
    Snazzy but I doubt it will really take hold for a while yet.
    I don't know why not. Everything is going to be OBD III and everything is going to be controlled by the ECU. This eliminates unnecessary vacuum lines, and allows the ECU to control the boost ALWAYS. Allowing variable boost. I bet it will take hold quickly, and I wouldn't be surprised if one doesn't end up on a 3s within the next 2 years.

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    Requires a whole new way of doing things and no aftermarket parts will fit it (manifolds, IC piping, etc).

    I see this technology being used on OEM products rather quickly, and maybe some aftermarket turbos for the time being, but in the future, yes, it will eventually take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocWalt View Post
    Requires a whole new way of doing things and no aftermarket parts will fit it (manifolds, IC piping, etc).

    I see this technology being used on OEM products rather quickly, and maybe some aftermarket turbos for the time being, but in the future, yes, it will eventually take over.
    Well I was talking about OEM in the first place. I bet these catch on very quick. This idea has been presented before, just not this clean and actually really done quite like this.

    Although, I don't know why you say IC piping, it is just regular piping for the air charge. It uses a different flange type for the down-pipe/exhaust.
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    Fitment
    Full-Race has worked closely with BorgWarner on application fitment and following the EFR launch, Full-Race EFR turbokits will be available for the following platforms:
    Subaru

    Subaru Rotated - EFR turbos are compatible with Full-Race's Subaru twinscroll kit in both Internal OR External WG configurations.
    Subaru Stock Location - EFR .64 A/R singlescroll Internal WG turbos will be released by Full-Race in configurations that are bolt-in for stock location subarus **requires 3" vband downpipe**
    Mitsubishi

    Mitsubushi Evo 6/7/8/9 - EFR Twinscroll External Gate fitment only. Fits current Full-Race T4 twinscroll evo manifolds, as seen on Sierra Sierra's Time Attack Evo
    Honda

    Honda K-Series Sidemount (RSX/EP/K-Swap) - Full-Race's "sidewinder" K series customers have a plethora of EFR turbochargers to choose from in Singlescroll or Twinscroll options and Internal OR External WGs
    Honda B-Series - EFR Twinscroll External Gate only, fits current Full-Race T4 twinscroll Top mount and T4 twinscroll Bottom mount
    Honda R18 - EFR complete turbokit
    Honda S2000 - EFR turbos in Internal OR External WG configurations on the brand-new forward mounted twinscroll S2000 manifold
    Nissan

    Nissan SR20DET - EFR Twinscroll w/ Internal OR External WGs & Singlescroll Internal WG . Fits current Full-Race Twinscroll top mount with or without WG tubes
    Nissan RB - EFR Twinscroll w/ Internal OR External WGs & Singlescroll Internal WG Fits current Full-Race Twinscroll top mount with or without WG tubes
    Toyota

    Toyota 2JZ - Twinscroll w/ Internal OR External WGs Fits current Full-Race Twinscroll top mount with or without WG tubes. **2JZ now available in smaller runner configuration for faster spool/response
    Toyota 3SGTE - Twinscroll External WG only **Exisitng Twinscroll bottom mount**
    Applications Coming Soon For:

    Mitsubishi Evo X
    350Z/G35 and 370Z/G37
    Honda '06+ Civic Si
    Honda CR-Z
    Porsche 996/997 Turbo
    Like I said, shouldn't be long till one shows up on a 3s.
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    Different routing of the IC piping for aftermarket, depending on the vehicle.

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    Here's an article about the EFR turbos that goes really in depth. The lack of direct fitment onto common manifolds is going to hinder this turbo greatly. All of the big power guys are going to go with what's proven until we get some kind of new car that brings back the popularity of a car like DSMs or 240s or something.

    http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_artic...ature-set.aspx

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    Maybe LMI can get into the business of modifying these for our cars?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 93STLTH View Post
    Maybe LMI can get into the business of modifying these for our cars?



    I see what you did thar....

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