Any plans on making a lip for the 1G? Cianci was going to at one point but never made it.
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Any plans on making a lip for the 1G? Cianci was going to at one point but never made it.
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Deff a lack of love in that area...
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I've been searching for someone to duplicate the Kaze aerocraft front lip. Shit is sick as hell, but $600 plus shipping from them is insane.
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Thanks for starting this thread Atrosity. I do have plans for a 1g lip. I've been finishing school and focusing on getting the headlights to market, but after the holidays I'll have a lot more free time.
Before I start the lip, I need to finish my 1g bumper project. I'm going to make a fiberglass cast of it, then see how good of a reproduction I can make. I see a lot of shops using "flexible fiberglass" these days. I'm going to see what I can get my hands on as far as flexible resins or flex additives. From that point, there are three scenarios that could occur: 1) If I can make a flexible bumper that meets my quality standards, I will cast and mold a 1g lip out of fiberglass reinforced plastic. I have almost no overhead, so it'll be inexpensive. ~250.
Scenario 2: I'm not satisfied with the outcome and I decide I don't want to make it myself. I get in touch with my thermoformer and we discuss materials. we make it out of ABS plastic or urethane. It comes out awesome. The tool to make a lip would be large and complicated. I imagine it would be quite costly, especially at such low numbers. ~400-500? I dunno yet.
Scenario 3: Nobody buys my headlights. I don't make any more parts. Just being realistic.
Now on to the important part... what will it look like? It's going to resemble the Kaze lip. It will be small and understated, about 1-2" tall. It will have a small opening on either side. I believe functionality always comes first, so if I'm going to make a lip you better believe it'll provide a tangible benefit. The openings will be functional NACA ducts that push air to the front calipers. The lip will come with molded ducting, no exceptions.
I want some feedback on this next part. I was thinking of including an aluminum venturi panel that replaces the stock plastic one. I could also design the lip to work with the stock piece - which brings up the question of active aero. Do you want me to try and make a kit that works with active aero, or just something that replaces it?
Thanks, Kurt
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I would say that while a vast majority of VR-4 owners have had issues with their Active Aero either dying or breaking, it would be hugely beneficial to incorporate the possibility of keeping the active aero with your concept lip. The main reason I say this is because I've always thought a "one part fits all" scenario is best when it comes to our platform (or at least the first generation of our platform). Just my opinion though.
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I agree with Marc, A lot of people still have active aero and a lot of people repair theres to work properly. I think having a kaze style lip would look very nice!!!
I would only suggest that you keep any lip you produce as clean-looking as possible. Two small ducts at the bottom would probably be alright, but keep it simple I'd say. The 1g bumpers are very much that way, and anything different clashes. You also don't want to make it too low, otherwise it throws off the profile running along the bottom of the sideskirts, and looks like you have a snowplow on your car. Perhaps letting it hang lower in the front and higher on the sides would be a good idea, since the sides of the front bumper are in fact substantially lower than the front edge...
These are my thoughts. About 2 dollars worth of cents.
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Haha, thanks for the 25 cents. I'm going to keep it simple and classy; that's how I roll. I know what you mean by the bumper being lower at the fenders. I can see it in your sig, lol. I'm going to pay close attention to that area and make it as flush as possible.
I collected some pictures of the kaze lip... mostly from people's sigs. I like it, but in my opinion there are three things wrong. 1. It's too low where the openings are. Mine would remain the same height across the front. 2. it sticks out too far at the wheel wells. I'd like to make it not noticeable. 3. you can see the ground through the openings! I hate it, it drives me crazy. It's just disrupting the air flow and decreasing downforce. Non-functional scoops FTL.
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Last edited by lat42MS; 12-09-2010 at 08:16 PM.
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Hmm you have some really good valid points I guess you should take a look at other cars aftermarket lips look like and how they function, maybe this can inspire you to make something really badass.
Our cars (1st Gen) really need badly a front lip to really give a face lift to the cars. Specially those without the active aero like mine that now I see the car and looks like there is a missing part! Something like Carbon Fiber might be expensive but offer a nicer look.
If someone can provide some idea designs that will be awesome.
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